Was one of the messages of the finale, If you have been rooting for Selina all along, you chose very poorly, and were here to not-gently remind you of that?That is the wonderful thing. The big one that we were on for probably a lot of the discussion was that never-before-seen President Hughes would die on the same day, and that would sort of steal her thunder. That would have been the running joke, that everybody else got scanned but shes the only actual competent one. And perhaps had she just made peace with Kemi [Toks Olagundoye] early on, a lot of this could have been avoided. She made eye contact with Gary, who looked at her for help as he was being led away, to which she simply looked away and continued the speech that she had swiped from the war hero. And then the past four years before she died, he was out. I dont have the secret answer of what Labor Day was, I just liked the idea of a lot of clues that kept changing what you thought about it. He had all the designer clothes and was always clean-shaven, because God forbid he look like crap compared to her. But if you watch when he talks about how she wouldve hated the flowers, theres an anger there. You dont ever really get to see Gary angry, but Tony is channeling sort of a little bit of a disgust, if you will. Ideas? I dont think we can compete. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Season 5s Mother in which Selina lost both her mom and, perhaps more importantly, the popular vote got three times the nods of any other episode. His favorite experience was when the American Film Institute showed clips from the 10 series it was honoring and, alphabetically, Veep came last. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. Not to compare it to addiction, but he was addicted to Selina and it takes somebody hitting the bottom to wake up, and that was Gary's rock bottom. Selina has always hated the limited powers of the vice president. "And there's nothing anyone can do to stop me from standing and walking for my country!" A lot of these stories go back to when I and the new writers came into the show. And so we planted some seeds early on, about them getting drinks. The problem is, Im happy to get rid of the incidental swearing. When she says to him, I need you to do a favor for me. Going to jail was never in the cards of that favor in Garys mind. They were putting those two things together and thinking that education is bad, and Im sorry, I think thats wrong. On a personal note, Mandel says the Rizzoli & Isles writers were wonderful neighbors. How does he view her now? And youre right, he did look rough. Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. It seemed that despite the betrayal, on some level, he will always hold a warped torch for Selina. ], This is Daddys Youve had the evil inside you the whole time, its time to embrace your dark side speech.You didnt need these shoes or me. Goddammit. So yeah, there was just a lot of joy. When watching Veep, Tony Hale can perennially be spotted over the shoulder of Julia Louis-Dreyfus starring character Selina Meyer. Lets just take no prisoners. Even though he had a kernel of love for her, he spent so much of his time just trying to please in this codependent love, and the result of that is never good. How long had you been sitting on that idea as the ending?There was always this idea of jumping ahead to the funeral. Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. And I know some people were thinking, like, Oh, is he the one thats going to bring her down, or anything like that? I guess I enjoyed the idea that the threat was in the air. Regret is a part of it, but at the same time, though, I think almost more horror. I dont have all of it, but theres a key piece of information that I would love to get in at some point, he says. So, when she first mentioned Gary, theres just this subtle thing on her face thats just so wonderful. That scarily driven, win-at-all costs side of Selina is a hideous sight to behold, except when it comes to the brutal, satisfying comeuppance of Tom James (Hugh Laurie). Did she get what she deserved, in addition to what she felt she deserved?DAVID MANDEL: Well, I do think she got what she deserved. Its very specific, and it aint Amy, and it was never going to be Amy. Sex toy covered in shit. Not the way they talked about it, no., Its related to Selinas off-camera miscarriage, revealed in Season 1s Full Disclosure. Its hard to imagine it being something that they had already talked about. He knows all the skeletons. Catherine, Gary, Tibet, and pristine federal lands are just some of the collateral damage in this mad dash to the Oval Office. Because the others do, and she doesnt. Im just gonna simply say too easy. It just seems like it has to be something we dont know about at all., Gary had to tell Andrew that Selina wanted a divorce, just as he had to tell Ted about their split in that same Season 1 episode. It's an absolutely ruthless, soulless decision, and one that leaves you in the moment wondering how much she will come to regret that. She has to just let it happen and then turn a blind eye. What conversations, if any, did you have with him about the ending and wrapping up the show?We saw each other at the premiere in New York. But In the age of reboots, we must ask: Is there any chance that Veep will come back in any form, down the road?At least for the moment, Ive said everything I have to say about these people and this world. How did you keep those emotions in check? I like to think its a credit to Armando [Iannucci, the shows creator] and the previous writers, and my current writers, that we can make you root for a terrible person. We were crying during the table read. If you like TVLine, you'll LOVE our email news alerts! I will say, our character relationship and our friendship has genuinely been one of the biggest gifts of my career. declares Louis-Dreyfus, who emailed Hanks for his blessing. What have I done? So its like there was an undercurrent of knowing that it was the end and us doing a scene that was the end between us that compounded the emotion. When none of that came to pass, lets do the General thing early in the year and plan her funeral, and then lets jump ahead to the future and see it became the idea. Catherine told her mother that shed never forgive her for agreeing to ban same-sex marriage, and then we saw her watch her funeral at home with Marjorie [Clea DuVall], which indicated estrangement. First off, the fact that Gary has beenseparated from Selina now that shes President has been emotional suicide for him. Not sensing any approaching doom, Gary asked if she wanted coffee from across the street and pointed out that it was a chia seed in her mouth. The three-day weekend it falls on is called Labor Day Weekend.. Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew . They were switching over to the movie side, so the lights came up, and there was no one saying like, And now well go over here. They were taking a pause, and the pause allowed the laughter to keep rolling, and people kind of stared back at us. So thats what she did, which is not exactly healthy. In many other countries May Day serves a similar purpose. And I think he honestly was there to pay his respects. I dont think Selina saw it as a gift, but in terms of his life, it was probably the biggest gift. After this [fight], theyre close again. Oh, yeah. I compare it to the tinge of remorse she felt while sitting at the desk in the end, when she called Garys name and I wasnt there. So for him to lay the lipstick on the casket? That guy has shown his dark side way too many times (Dans resignation) and has probably done some nasty stuff during his career, Viktor Cegledi reasoned. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sundays series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyers funeral. "When somebody else comes to her, it was so hard to watch that and not run to her," shares Hale. Because if it wasnt supposed to be happening, she would have run out and been like, What are you doing? Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. Richard (Sam Richardson) became a two-term POTUS! And there's no coming back. I pair that with how excited I am to be able to have had a full-circle moment in Veep, to show the beginning and an end and to walk through the whole journey and to have the whole arc of the series completed. My hope is that while we are in this horrific Selina Meyer morass, that down the line there is hope. Whose future outcome amused you the most? What Selina did was the biggest gift to Gary, because thats the only thing that would have broken the cycle for him, Hale now tells The Hollywood Reporter. In the primaries, Jonahs run mirrors Selinas initial run: he starts out popular, but ends up losing to DANNY CHUNG. That being said, hes a simple soul. CBS Evening News anchor Mike McLintock (! Like Gary, she was in this toxic relationship with Selina. From Austin Butler and Cate Blanchett to a potential Best Supporting Actress toss-up, see who EW thinks will win at the 2023 Oscars. In some ways, the lack of her courage to ask him almost makes it worse. But it was nice to see Veeps international fanbase come out to play: Im European, and Europe has a wonderful history regarding our attitude towards Jews, wrote Viktor, whos from Croatia. She was aware of what she was doing. Im a huge fan. Theres an anger there, like, Im here but f you. Even with the lipstick I think theres even still a little bit of that, and then he cant help himself. "There's not an authentic foundation there. Mandel imagines that Selina is haunted when shes alone and that in those moments of silence, she cries herself to sleep over Gary the most. The most joy Gary ever had was when he would get the right lipstick; when he would get the right coat. She didnt really care about Gary but selfishly, I think she thinks that she cant survive without him around. She has a new Amy [in Michelle, played by Rhea Seehorn]. It was just covered with a lot of dysfunction. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. So it was just a genuine expression of having missed her, but also having been really glad that she showed up. And at one point, we even talked about in the episode where you would meet the General and he plans her funeral, the credits of that episode would be the funeral. He was ready to do whatever she asked. Another sleazy scumbag operator a la Dan. !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. He has no identity outside of Selina Meyer. So that's what brought him back to that funeral because everybody else could care less about her, but he had this kernel of authentic love for her. Banijay Asia CEO Deepak Dhar On 'The Night Manager', Remaking, Wall Street Wary of Man United, WWE Deals as Sports StocksSlump, 'The Mandalorian' Seasons 1 and 2 Take Place Over 'Many Years,', 'Doctor Who' Showrunner Russell T Davies Boards BBC Viagra Drama. Mandel has stated many times how grateful he is that the writers decided Selina would lose the election and not be in the White House in Season 6. I dont believe he could have stopped us from saying his name. Julia and Tony said those scenes were difficult to shoot, just knowing the history between the characters and that they as actors were saying goodbye to this onscreen relationship as well, even though Gary didnt realize it. 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. Its the darkest moment for Selina and for the show. And when you sow that your entire life, you reap sadness and isolation. Its been a process of first when her mom dies, little bits about her father. April 28, 2017, 12:21 PM. Offers may be subject to change without notice. Sie knnen Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ndern. She just thought that Amy wouldve liked the cut of his jib. How did you get her to return? But maybe theres a lesson to be learned which is, at the end of the day, horrible is horrible. It was probably the most heartwarming Youre my hatchet man line ever delivered.Weve played a lot with the notion of this horrific dad she had, over the past three years. Thats whats kind of fun. I always catered it to Gary just treating what she was saying as an everyday request and never considering what she was really asking. Its so many things. This master-and-servant dynamic gone wrong, between the vainglorious VP-turned-POTUS-turned-legacy chaser-turned-POTUS (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) and the bootlicking bag man/dumped-upon doormat who kept her secrets and prepared her snacks (Hale), served as the beating black heart of HBO's shrewd, crude political comedy for seven seasons. She really respects him, shes worked with him [on Seinfeld]. My story is that Im super bummed its over! The coming to terms with what youve done and what you did is somewhat horrific. You can read that gesture as closure, but not full forgiveness. How Marvel went big with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. That they murdered somebody just too easy, Mandel says. Every single night he does it just to be prepared for the next day. How did you and Louis-Dreyfus approach how to play the scene? I doubt we ever find out. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. She has to be thinking, This is bad right now and this is a little bit bad for me, but I dont think she can be thinking about how horrific the rest of her life is going to be. But near the end of Sunday's series finale, it all came crashing down in the show's darkest moment. She has been riding that thing, and its brought up a lot though obviously her anger at Selena, and all of those things. I mean, it wasnt a healthy relationship and he was certainly complicit in it in the sense of it takes two to tango. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sunday's series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyer's funeral. I looked at this as, Well, maybe this will snap him out of it. Maybe hell wake up to the abuse. On April 16, Selena Day, fans will put on their favorite Selena songs and remember the incredible impact the Tejano crooner had on music. What is her legacy? 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