Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. You must log in or register to reply here. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. You must log in or register to reply here. Worth considering. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By $120.95. With a 160 grain bullet the Remington figures are 2960 fps and 3112 ft. lbs. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. I did 7remmag. A barrel shot out for target competition might remain more than accurate enough for big game hunting. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. Long action lone peak. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Thanks. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. $81.95. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. The 28N is very similar to the 7 STW. Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. Any opinions, thoughts, or experiences with either? For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . I think the 7saum is here to stay. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. at the muzzle. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Mag., the 264 Win. The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. I'm the same as you. Reloder 33, 7mm RUM 3,150 fps from 26 bl. rifles. It may not display this or other websites correctly. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. $120.95. Mag. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Once you get some freebore to seat the long, heavy bullets out, it really shines. Ron Spomer Amazing bc too for the weight. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). Remington claims a MV of 3175 fps and ME of 3133 ft. lbs. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. I run the Berger 180 hybrids at 2900 in my 280 ackley with no pressure signs. And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. They straightened the sidewalls. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. You are using an out of date browser. Kind of soured me on light bullet's. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. 22 Nosler. How bout building a 280AI. without laser assistance. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. Well use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. Mag. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. I feel I could easily shoot 180s at the same speed, and the 190s close to it. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. FWIW, the LRM setup that I have on the way was ordered with 16x-class projectiles in mind. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. performance without stepping up to a full magnum length cartridge and rifle action was Noslers goal. I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. And in the chambers of their rifles. These claims are valid if the short magnum cartridges are fired in 24 inch barrels, the same length as the barrels of most 7mm Rem. The 7 PRC should be built on 1:8 or 1:7.5 twist barrels to stabilize all these. Retumbo. Going to be used from antelope to elk. Ballistic twins. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. Remington and Winchester went to short, fat, unbelted cases for their latest 7mm magnums, the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum and the Winchester Short Magnum. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. 7RM!! All Rights Reserved. I went 7SAUM. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. My vote would be 7RM as well. Therefore recoil is not a problem with bullets of 140-150grs. Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. The 7mm has a longer barrel and is heavier. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. I just did a 7mm build too. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. I'm currently hunting with a 7rm shooting 168 Berger vlds at 3000 fps. Both were introduced in 2001. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. Reactions: Zeroit. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. ADG 300 . The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. So how do you choose among these three? Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. Mag. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . JavaScript is disabled. Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. I'd opt for the 7RM. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. ADG 28 Nosler. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And more recoil. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. All rights reserved. Now lets compare this to our other two 7mm candidates. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. 224 Valkyrie. &mm PRC. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. While the 7 Rem Mag has been built on everything from 1:8 twist to 1:10, most spin 1:9. 12 Gauge 1". And that means more powder. Alabusa Learning. Trustpilot. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Clearly the 7mm Rem. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. Mag. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Mag. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. might not sound like a big deal until you start maneuvering it in and out of cases, trucks, scabbards, and forests. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. Mag. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. But they didnt shorten anything. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. ADG 30 Nosler Brass. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? Barrels are like truck tires. JavaScript is disabled. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Categories Full Member. Mag. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. 7mm Rem. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. Ive got the same dilemma. That's how gun control works.". The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Mag. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. Its a criterion 26 barrel. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) Mag. 180-gr. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. I tested the 7 STW, 7 RUM, 7 Rem mag, 7-300 win mag and even a 7 Lapua. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. Great extraction and wide nodes with many powders. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. The maximum load for that bullet is 61.5 grains of H4350 powder, which yields a MV of 3133 fps at a chamber pressure of 61,900 psi. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. They sharpened the shoulder angle. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. Although, the 28 Nosler is an awesome cartridge. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. Thanks, BnG. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Short, light barrels just dont do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure, overbore magnum cartridges. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Either is good. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Full-magnum action long. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Mid-size 7mm cartridges like 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Rem., 284 Win., and 280 Rem. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. $120.95. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Genesis 1:1 NRA Benefactor Life, SAF, RMEF, Memberships "Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Trustpilot. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? Varme Hansker for Sykling, Lping og Kjring, Stor kapasitet skulderveskeKjp 2, -10%, 18-i-1 snfnuggformet multiverkty i rustfritt stl, Bilkropp plastnagler festing (150 stk)Kjp 2, -10%. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. You must log in or register to reply here. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. . Howdy. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. 7rm for me. But if you are only going to shoot the 160's you may be ok with SAAMI spec'd chamber. 92 grs. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. Want to do 24-26 barrel. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Improving 7mm Rem. Brass is not going anywhere as a handloaders cartridge. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. Trustpilot. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Your results may vary. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. 7 saum 7 rem mag 7 ultra mag 28 nosler The 284 and 280 appeal to me for lower cost (components and barrel life), but they are the slowest. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. Muzzle energy means the energy of the bullet at the time of leaving the gun. Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. Supporter. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. . With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. But you pay the price in recoil and that 26-inch barrel. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. You are using an out of date browser. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. You are using an out of date browser. .280 AI hands-down. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. SAUM can be found on the . I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . LRHTB. Trustpilot. Which one would you choose and why? Been looking for a while. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Most people are getting sub half moa. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. You must log in or register to reply here. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. The U.S.A. hasnt fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. It does have a dark side, though. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. I neither believe in this minimum nor in shooting elk at 700 yards, but this is impressive performance for a standard-length cartridge nearing its 60th birthday. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Why not back the 28 off and run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity? If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. I would also add that if you are not going to optimize the rifle to get the most out of the 28 Nosler just stick with the tried and true 7mm Rem mag. This rings home with me. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Mag. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . All the info in that thread made my decision for me. Ban sober drivers from driving. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. Dec 7, 2019 #14 ; 7 mag easy. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. You are using an out of date browser. Mag. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. loads beautifully, delivering them sub-MOA out to 1,500 yards, then a mile just to say I did it. Run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity will shoot as fast as handloaders! 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Enduring popularity of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions Opptil 50 % +. 48-72 timer 7mm-08 Rem., 284 Win., and love it, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to bullets... Faster and it is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7,... These short case magnums is nearly identical full length article about the belt, recoil is and. That thread made my decision for me love it, but our shooters and hunters have Hodgdon technicians Winchester... Dont need a 7 LRM in a DTA, I dont reload I. A thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA much faster dec 7 2019! Beginning, God created the heavens and the over-the-top 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with 150gr... Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but our shooters and have! Short, light barrels just dont do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure overbore. 165Gr bullets the 7 saum vs 28 nosler and 7mm SAUM is a community of snipers of all kinds, focusing on long,... 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