Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. It won't load a round. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Haha). You cannot paste images directly. What ammo? It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. The problem is when the slide slams forward. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Could be ammo related. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. January 3, 2004 in Glock. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Just an excuse to try something new. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. February 21, 2022 in Glock. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? I noticed this after a cleaning. Your link has been automatically embedded. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. I had this with my first gen P80. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. Kinda weird. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. You can post now and register later. Did you try having someone else shoot it? Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. UPDATE! I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Just a thought. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Upload or insert images from URL. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Powered by Invision Community. It's working fine now. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. I can swap the sli. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Clear editor. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. Pasted as rich text. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Nick29 It should close by itself. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I will look into it. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? can your extractor move freely? Clear editor. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. Is it safe to shoot? The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. - Bren. All Rights Reserved. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? is your locking block seated correctly? Pics to come soon. I am making sure not to ease it forward. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Your previous content has been restored. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. By I checked and it looks fine. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Oh, it was like filing. Glad you got it fixed. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. Thanks. The Barbie dolls are mine. Found the culprit. How are you sending the slide forward? I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Eject it. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Thanks for the info. Glocks are pretty simple really. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Everything else seems to be working fine. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. SJ 40, thank you! Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? BrianEnos.com I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. Interesting. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. It now passes the recoil spring test. Display as a link instead, Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. I couldnt be happier. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Does it function? It does once I release (reset) the trigger. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. No need to clean, just add lube. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? Great info! Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. This did the trick. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. Just curious as to what Glock said. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. I could measure how it was off. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Im a little ahead of you on this path. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. I will look into buying some calipers. FYI it's not the recoil spring. 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