Baltimore, MD *** Dwelling in their castle of self-righteousness, they are blinded & cannot see that courageous Catholics like yourself will risk all to protect another Catholic from experiencing degradation at the hands of a wolf in sheeps clothing. 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. LiveMass.Net Oklahoma City, OK And this goes unchallenged! Catholics are watching and waiting. The Missive. Fort Worth, TX Indeed, the extent and depth of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council call for a renewed commitment to deeper study in order to reveal clearly the Councils continuity with Tradition, especially in points of doctrine which, perhaps because they are NEW, have not yet been well understood by some sections of the Church.. Montreal, QC Im happy to let people know what led me to the place where I currently stand. New Priest Assignments Announced. In the meantime, Im glad to say that I now fully support you and have put my money where my mouth is. For anyone who wishes to gain knowledge on the position, the information is out there. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? Maple Hill, KS FSSP Missions Seattle, WA If they fail to do their duty then the moral responsibility for the many Mortal sins coming from all of this rest with the leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson. Checks can be written to "Mission Tradition." New - Meal Train - Calling all those who want to grow in love of neighbor! As such, the pope can make a formal declaration of schism based upon the SSPXs refusal to accept the errors of the Council, and guess what? . Fr. I used to think my family would grow out of it. We assume they are coming from a position of the Faithbut theyre not. The FSSP offers the Mass according to the form that was in use prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. Since becoming a sedevacantist, I have broken contact w/many of my family who consider themselves to be traditional catholics even as they stopped believing in confession when they were in college, attended mass whenever they feel like it, but always go to communion, are sterilized, use birth control, are divorced and remarried, are pro-abortion, are pro-homosexual marriage, dont believe anyone is going to hell, believe everyone is saved w/out being baptized or Catholic, are married to unbaptized persons, never go to mass, raise their children w/these values, never prayed the rosary with their children who are now 35 etc. Barbara, Barbara, The opinions of Voris are small potatoes when you look at the big picture. The Bishop did not stop Nicholson. German-speaking Chaplain Father Gerald Gesch. We laughed hard. It can be done, but always with a view that charity is the FIRST item ticked off. Wolfe to begin attacking the SSPX, and that posture only heightened following the election of Pope Francis. The question of the FSSP really is a question of doctrine,principle and new mass. When I speak about the FSSP I am speaking about the group as such. We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. That neighbor would include jews, mohammedans, shintoists, hindus, etc. When making comments please consider that there is a tsunami of baptized Catholics following us who dont have the foggiest idea of what is going on in the Church, and that popular blogs no matter what their angle may be the platform they have to grasp the issues. http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. Voris used Father Wolfe FSSP in his attacks. Fr. Have you noticed the fall off in comments by the regulars? That we were all good people. If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). Thank you for this honest report, Mr. Verrecchio. He took some time waiting to see the fruits of the Novus Ordo before he made firm judgements. dear marian& all, Many excellent leaders in the Church, good holy men and women, recognize the exact same problems, but they havent left. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. So the horror continues and the FSSP..same story. If Catholics do not like these attacks on the SSPX your beef is with the FSSP and its superiors. I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. As for Michael Voris, I dont watch or follow him in any way. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. Really? But they didnt. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Visit https://sacredliturgyconference.org/ for information about the next conference and how to register. Stay away. Alarico, thank you for bringing this to my attention. Ive done that in this space many times, speaking of how I once naively believed one thing about the Council, the Mass and even the SSPX, only to have my eyes opened to the truth. The way they advise individuals is highly personalized. *** All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. Love your enemies, be good to those who hate you is not a suggestion. Sunday 22nd October. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. From the Desk of Canon Olivier Meney, ICRSS Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. Full communion is a VC2 heresy. May God love you. His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. All in mortal sin? As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. Stop using deceptive language. A few years ago, there was a large national media initiative to reach out to lapsed Catholics called Catholics Come Home. He wont say aloud it now for reasons that well discuss shortly. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. Sometimes we are trite, blunt, even silly. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Atlanta, GA I think it sometimes gives them scruples. FSSP Events Looking at what happened at Fisher Moore College in the light of the attacks from Voris this week and in the light of the attacks on Father Gruner the night of his death by Father Paul Nicholson this is all clearly a manifestation of the demonic. Confraternity of St. Peter Will you also look at the links I posted above? 4. The error can be found in document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. Fraternity Publications Why did the SSPX priest so advise certain persons? Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. This gossip fest is now less scintillating than a junior high school girl spat in the Bronx after a game of Double Dutch. Cardinal Burke has been very clear: If Pope Francis puts in place a program allowing the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion apart from a true remedy (e.g., an annulment) he will not follow; rather, he said he will maintain the true faith. hi, scott, Inaccurately classified and Inaccuratley defined sorry to the average reader i got it wrong in my comment above thanks de maria for correcting me. SAGUTO - Michael D., on June 12, 2009 of Syosset, NY. I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. This, for the love of God & the goal of conversion. A couple of years ago, I heard a solid Catholic treatment of the Holy Trinity which, in a side note, mentioned that as wonderful as this film is, the part in which the saint explains the Trinity must be ignored. Nor is it a challenge or personal attack on anyone reading this. I am glad to be able to stay on course with what Louie provides here. INTROIT "Gaudeamus" Score Sung without organ accompaniment by men only Conductor: Jeff Ostrowski To access the rehearsal files, go HEREand scroll down to 31 May. Ottawa, ON And a real hand with a hole in it stands ready to open the door. The rest would be for a forum. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. (Both Voris and Marshall refer to JPII and John XXIII as saints - big red flag!). Father Josef Bisig. The archbishops statement was read at All Saints Masses the weekend of Nov. 9-10. Tulsa, OK The reason I feel that way, my2cents, is because Ive held the position for decades, hence- bc of the timeframe-in my early years of mothering I met some of the original laity & priests who held the position (who BTW shall at this time remain nameless.) Nada. Just one full-communion Catholic educational environment where debate over the impact and soundness of a monumentally disruptive 50 year old council might take place? Rather, a home is ultimately an interaction between personalities that are supposed to be loving each other spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz close friend of the FSSP and has does many ordinations for them excommunicated the SSPX in his diocese. Church. Interesting insight. Most professed Novus Ordites and, indeed, any who recognise in a Heresiarch a pope, live in a sort of miasma where evidence does not rule the position, the position rules the evidence. Unfortunately Voris has much in common with the SSPX in this way. Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? 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