any help? To know if your Fiat 500s starting problems are from dirty battery contacts, you need to investigate them. To begin troubleshooting, you must first connect the diagnostic tool to your Fiat 500. Do one terminal at a time and dont let water puddle on the top of the battery touch both terminals at the same time, this can short the battery. Typical causes include tearing of the timing belt, incorrect fueling, insufficient oil, hydrolock, overheating of the engine, or continuous driving in an excessive speed range. You may be able to jump start the car with an external 12 volt source so you can drive to an auto part supply store to buy a new battery, or you can try replacing the 12 volt battery where the car is stuck. having the same problem and we have a newer Just a wild guess, but maybe the fuel system "drains" itself in a month. Hello My 500e is not taking the plug saying to service it, is that something I can do? I'd invest in a good (ie expensive) heavy duty\deep cycling battery that can take the treatment and make sure it gets fully charged when the car is in use. Disconnect HV 30+ seconds & reconnect. It will also rule out any other problem with the first key, for example, water damage. Checked out shifter ETC., finally original STARTER was Therefore it is recommended to keep the engine of the donor vehicle off when jump starting your 500. Take a multimeter, change its settings to ohms symbol. I guess someone is pointing at a lack of oil to operate the valves? I thought it said "charged" the 12v, not "changed". Be careful not to touch both terminals with your metal tool, it will be one expensive mistake. look at the 'earth' cable to the battery, but honestly I've been stranded at least a dozen Hi Im from Italy , i have the some problem .. did u solve it ? If your Fiat 500s fuel pump fails, then the engine wont start. The 12V can die in only 2 years of normal use, & as shown at the link in post #1 above, when it dies the contactors won't close to allow charging. The cold weather in Miami this past week knocked out the 12V battery in my 2015 500e, I ended up with the same error message service electric vehicle system, and the dreaded low power mode. Please keep in mind that using poor quality parts compromises the safety of the driver when on the road. Dont worry, you can still start your vehicle the battery is only used to send the signal for locking/unlocking. Voltage is ~12.5V and 14.3V when powered on. Can this be the 12v? Thanks , Comments are welcome, but do not forget to visit the Fiat 500 USA Forum for lively discussions on this post: www.fiat500usaforum.com. MY 2012 FIAT 500 WONT START. times over the past year, its not a bad car if I didn't have this issue, and now I'm trying to 1. the car will not start unless i push-start it. OK, where is the starter situated, and how do I find that wire ? If you have a model of Fiat 500 which only has a key fob with start/stop button and no place to insert a key, then try placing your key fob as close to the start/stop button as you can and then start the vehicle. I once disconnected the battery on my 500 for 10 minutes to reset a spurious error message. I got a 2015 mod. Still nothing! Disconnect 12V, disconnect HV, reconnect 12V, reconnect HV. starter? If the cable has been damaged, replace it with a new one. 124spider.wordpress.com/2018/08/02/re- I tried to depress the little button for it to come on (light off), but its always lights up! If you hear clicking noise from the engine compartment when you try to start the vehicle, it indicates that there is enough charge in the battery to activate the solenoid (which is the source of clicking noise), but not enough charge to power the starter. MCD12 and its partners recommend taking great care and carefully following the safety rules when carrying out the repair or replacement of any parts. Fiat 500 is a reliable road companion, but its a machine with hundreds of interconnected parts, and like any other machine it sometimes fail to deliver normal operation. Sometimes a battery showing over 12.4 volts may not be able to supply enough current to crank the engine. If the rodents like rats, mice, or squirrels have chewed up the cable for the starter motor, it can cause poor or no flow of electrical current to the motor. Battery corrosion is a fairy common problem, especially if the installed battery is more than 2 years old. Next you can unplug the red positive pole cable. done it again sincefingers crossed, knock on wood. Sometimes it starts on the next turn, negative on the battery, I put my on the If your 500 has been sitting in the garage for months, the battery will eventually drain out and you wont be able to start the engine. The most common causes of engine failure are lack of oil, poor maintenance and hydrolock. but they didn't say they did. B dated October 18, 2014 supersedes TSB 18- By waiting a moment with the key in the MAR-ON position before turning it to AVV, you might give the fuel pump enough time to refill the whole fuel system again. friend to start the car. For exact troubleshooting, always check whether the information is correct. The most common causes of dead battery in 500 are internal degradation of the battery due to old age, and bad alternator but can also be caused by parasitic draw, and if the vehicle has been parked for a long time. Lights, dash, radio, everything came on just fine but when trying to start all interior I this is very common starting problem and has to do with a software override that will not let the car start if there is low oil pressure. The car has a First remove the black cable from the negative terminal using a wrench or a plier. JavaScript is disabled. thanks foir your thoughts.that is my next attempt.turning the key on and off before attempting to start it..get the fuel up to the engine first. The box is under power and repairs or tests should always be done in a workshop. Drove to the store today with 50% charge at the store. always keep in mind when storing a car for more then 4 weeks add a preservative to the gas make sure the oil is topped up and transmission fluids are all normal change oil on a time interval not on a mileage standard oil actually brakes down when not being used rather quickly. battery and guess what it started. I have a reputable mechanic. Yay! BATTERY IS GOOD SINCE RADIO Tip: You can try starting your Fiat 500 with its second key. If dead battery is the reason for the breakdown of your Fiat 500, you can easily jump start it using jumper cables and a healthy battery from another vehicle, or using a battery booster if available. JavaScript is disabled. 1. Fiat 500 wont start new batt, alt,starter 6 Answers Hello all; my 2012 Fiat 500 Sport 72k miles wont start or crank. Fiat 500 won't start - causes and how to fix it; Fiat 500 bad mass air flow sensor (MAF) symptoms and causes; For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I twisted it a bit and the car worked perfectly. Because the battery may have a defect with these measured values and must be replaced. Any Also in that link: the onboard charge timer can also prevent charging. When the ground is bad, the starter solenoid may still work and make clicking noises as it has low current requirement, but the starter motor may not turn over the engine due to high current requirement. Debating whether it is time to change the car, Common on fiat the bolts on starter gets lose and lose its ground tighten the bolts if tight The engine also requires a ground connection to function, but the way the engine is mounted, it does not allow the electric current to flow between the engine and the body (due to non-conductive rubber insulated engine mounts). Then suddenly TADA the problem resurfaced. sell it but how.. when it won't start half the time? couldnt find the issue, checked for software Cleaning is not possible, you can only change the filter. I went to jump the car and noticed the strange factory terminal on the ground moved. Then it will be okay for Still had problems. To rule out dead battery, your best course of action is to jump start your 500 using jumper cables and a healthy battery from another vehicle, or using a battery booster if available. The rodent damage can usually be seen quickly by looking into the engine compartment. There are many reasons why your Fiat 500 makes clicking noise and wont start. If your Fiat 500 has push start/stop button, then its possible that your vehicle may not start due to weak key fob battery. Do you need to Replace the battery on yourFiat 500 (2004 - 2012) but don't know where to start? Attachments This workaround is effective when the parts inside the starter are stuck together or the gears are slightly out of alignment. Abarth models. this has been going on since i purchased the car new in 2012..500 POP standard trans. The starter motor and its solenoid relies on the ground connection of the engine to function properly. . The negative terminal of the battery is connected to the body/chassis of 500, called a ground connection. warning, engine cutting out, only lasted 10 seconds on and off. We tried to reset/reboot using the provided instructions but without success :(My 500e has been gathering dust now for 3 months already, anybody with some tips? The clicking noise is from the starter solenoid which is still under power as it has a separate circuit, but the starter motor isnt getting any power from the battery. Given that there are many EVs where the 12V is an issue, my hunch is that lead acid batteries actually are better off with the enormous power drain when crancking the starter and then large currents to recharge, rather than the low power required for board computer and lights, and trickle charge but thats just my theory , You might want to take a look at batteryuniversity.com, Its a prominent issue surrounding the electric vehicle market that the old-school lead acid battery just isnt appropriate for new technology vehicles. Turn the car on before plugging in (necessary if the battery pack is below -14F). Id bet there isnt a single Fiat dealer with a tech who knows even half these tricks. Probably a case of luck, but my 2016 500e still has the original battery. i think you should remove the negative terminal because it the wrench touches anything else on the car while removing the negative terminal thing bad will happen because it will be ground to ground. The reflash Wish I had the details but I can't recall what they told her. Instead, plug connections on the ignition system come loose. 0% 38 % of the time it's the Battery 0% 27 % of the time it's the Alternator 0% 20 % of the time it's the Starter 0% 15 % of the time it's Something else Common Repairs Battery Replacement Inspect the connectors of the ground cables (battery to body, body to engine) for any signs of rust or corrosion. I now have a 10 mm wrench in my Fiat 500e. Fiat wouldnt start. tree mechanic. It stopped doing it for quite a while so I didn't think anything more about it. EMAIL The animals crawl under the vehicle and bite through cables and wires. There are no engine codesI go to I wonder According to that advertisement link*, Tesla S/X has 225% the "off" drain of a 500e! (sitting at the airport for than a month at at time) imagine that!!! If it doesnt work, then look in your vehicles operational manual for exact location of key fob placement, as it may vary depending on model. problem has gone away for now but Im still Started like Fiat 500 making clicking noise when attempting to start the engine is a fairly common problem when it comes to no-crank starting issues, and can be easily fixed in the majority of cases. Could it be ignition switch or something? http://www.fiat500usa.com/2014/10/fiat-500- If the conductivity test fails, check the condition of the ground connections in your 500. First remove the black cable from the negative terminal using a wrench or a plier. Warning: There is always a risk of burning up the alternator or other electrical components if the engine of the donor battery vehicle is running during jump start. Sir you are legend saved me who knows how much at the dealer.. thank you A 30-second 12V-disconnect worked the one time when it didn't work to just turn the key off for 3 minutes for sleep mode (without opening or closing the hatch or either door). Anyone New battery. pull the relay that is a safety to prevent start if the clutch is not in and jump it. To rule out dead battery, your best course of action is to jump start your 500 using jumper cables and a healthy battery from another vehicle, or using a battery booster if available.Requirements: The engine of both the vehicles should be off, and the transmission in Park. months, Ive checked the ground wires and This workaround is effective when the parts inside the starter are stuck together or the gears are slightly out of alignment. and in my case the car also threw up a "check engine" code that turned out to be a thermostat Here's what worked: Presumably by this time, the problem has been resolved. solenoid wire but haven't been able to get under there and see the solenoid area, going to I am trying to find out how to replace a automatic trans in my 2012 Fiat POP? establishing-oil-flow-in-multi-air-brick-after- After cleaning, reconnect the terminals. Had this problem one morning. Corrosion occurs when the battery acid reacts with the metal terminals which can lead to loss of contact and reduced current flow. If you have the fuel cut of message simply move indicator stalk to left-right-left-right-left-right and that will reset it. Did u ever find out the problem? Therefore, even if you think that the cause of the engine not starting is a battery failure and replace the battery, the battery will soon run out and the engine will not start. Plugged it into charging statio that was right there. 2012) Turned out to be the hot wire going to the solenoid was corroded but still making Reboot the charger via reset button, unplug/replug, or circuit-breaker off/on. Fiat 500 2012 will not start. I took the car to the mechanic and indeed it was a bad starter, If there isnt enough charge in the battery to power the starter motor, and you try to crank the engine, the battery voltage will get so low that it cant properly power the lights, accessories and of-course the starter. I'm guessing the no start issue is due to a faulty. In fact you want to be careful if you wait for a few minutes after plugging into L2 before touching the OBC just inches away from the 12V. I imported a 2017 500e, drove it fine for about 5 months, but now, after replacing the 12V battery, making sure all nuts are tightened, it is not getting off the "Not Ready" mode and is shows "Service electric vehicle system" . going to replace the wiring. The fuel filter of your Fiat 500 does not wear out like a mechanical part, but it gets clogged by dirt and airborne particles and clogs over time. ALL was well for If you discover white deposits or silvery-green deposits, but no further cracks or damage, you may not have to replace the battery, just clean it. I could jump start it and it would work perfectly for some time (months) and then repeat. Start the donor vehicle and then your Fiat 500. The starter motor and its solenoid relies on the ground connection of the engine to function properly. Couldn't get it to start. Weak Battery If the alternator develops a fault and stops generating electricity, the entire electrical load of the vehicle will shift to the battery. The long term fix is to replace the terminal. new Battery, Alternator, Starter. Its never consistent. Finally connect the other end of the black cable to any bare unpainted metal part of the body or engine of your 500. If the key fob battery is empty, the door no longer locks or unlocks at the push of a button. Ive been having the same problem for about 5 Tried that several times but did not work, but thanks for the advice. If the pole clamp is very tight, you can open it with pliers. A dated August 14, 2014. Hey, that happened a lot, the computer enter into "check engine" status because the main controller got a false contact of current or was left without power for long time (when swapping the batteries) Better here is to get a good Bluetooth OBD2 reader and get the fiat app. out to be the earth cable had corroded, might want released a revised Technical Service Bulletin (Fiat You can have a defective fuel pump replaced in your workshop. Battery is If corrosion is found, clean the affected connector and the terminal with a sandpaper. Still, it can break down depending on how you use it, and in the case of a used car, the alternator may be quite old. MY Mechanic friend installed a wire connected to the After youve ruled out battery issues, it is time to investigate the power cable for the starter motor and its connections from the battery to the starter motor in 500. Weak battery The leading cause of clicking noise and no start in Fiat 500 is weak battery. Okay listen I'm having the same problem the car wont start The car has a new Battery, Alternator, Starter. Apply some silicone grease on the terminals to prevent corrosion. Did you charge it before fitting? Screw in all the bolts and tighten them down. Excellent tip - worked like a charm to reset the car in 5 minutes.Only annoying thing so far is having to reset the clock, but at least it drives now! The immobilizer is controlled by a passive transponder. if that was the problem. battery to the starter. If all the lights and accessories on your vehicle have suddenly died, it could be due to a bad connection. The alternator in 500 converts mechanical energy from the engine to electricity that not only powers all the on-board accessories, but also charges the battery. Next connect black cable to the negative terminal of donor battery, then to the bare metal in the engine bay of your Fiat 500. If it didn't have any compression it wouldn't start with a push start either. Any ideas? Well done ETS! The reading should be at or very close to zero ohms. Reboot the charger via reset button, unplug/replug, or circuit-breaker off/on. and be stranded. The dealership Parasitic draw can be tested with a multimeter which has amperage measurement capability. Maybe. I'm including pictures so you can see how to fix this and reboot the 500e. You dont need to replace the battery in this case. Deactivate the charge timer in the car's menu. When the ground is bad, the starter solenoid may still work and make clicking noises as it has low current requirement, but the starter motor may not turn over the engine due to high current requirement. Once the battery has been removed from the circuit, you can start cleaning the corroded battery with sandpaper or wire brush. Stereo keeps playing after my car is turned off. If there isnt enough current flow to crank the engine, you may only hear clicking noise from the starter solenoid when you try to start the engine. Do the same between the negative terminal of the battery and any exposed metal (non painted) part of the chassis/body. also the app torque has support for the 500e now. The s/s worked normally afterwards. Connect the other end of the red cable to the positive terminal of donor battery. If you discover white deposits or silvery-green deposits, but no further cracks or damage, you may not have to replace the battery, just clean it. DOES Green Flag said change the battery, I did, still wont Im having the same problem with a 2008 Fiat 500. It can default itself to active. But keep in mind, a volt meter will only give you a rough idea of the condition of the battery. as it should. my 2014 fiat 500e sometimes "goes nuts". Ask questions in the forums, fix common issues using our helpful guides, upload your photos to the gallery or buy and sell with the online classifieds. Red cable to any bare unpainted metal part of the driver when on the ground connection of the to. 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